tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post8663263395426580269..comments2024-03-16T01:20:50.860+00:00Comments on Battle Bunnies: Escalation - Lords of War - PrimarchesDarien Vascohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05084497926872019375noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-61098652459530827882013-12-18T22:33:41.063+00:002013-12-18T22:33:41.063+00:00Ah yes thats the FAQ from before Escalation was re...Ah yes thats the FAQ from before Escalation was released. I suspect its very nearly null and void now. I think we will trial the primarchs as HQs for a while (cant really see it making any difference really) and see how it goes :)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252506564096149264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-19383158626046516372013-12-18T00:04:19.868+00:002013-12-18T00:04:19.868+00:00Awesome sauce. Awesome sauce. Drake Setahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06997172018989923595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-56264227440477541782013-12-17T19:05:59.658+00:002013-12-17T19:05:59.658+00:002Khall Sithris:
HH FAQ is on FW site. I refer to t...2Khall Sithris:<br />HH FAQ is on FW site. I refer to the very last entry in it. Here is the link:<br />http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/Downloads/Product/PDF/B/Betrayal_FAQ_Errata_v.2.pdf<br /><br />2Drake Seta:<br />Ah. Thank you for clarification, Drake. Yes, these HQs look scary enough even without D-strength weapons.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-14053725213139253732013-12-17T17:53:09.079+00:002013-12-17T17:53:09.079+00:00Yes FW did implement that against Heresy Forces. T...Yes FW did implement that against Heresy Forces. They have released a list of their LoW's which can be used in regular 40k escalation games too. Thing that Khall and our gaming group is discussing is: Would you take a Primarch as a LoW to combat lets say a Revenant Titan, and thusly using up your single LoW choice. A Primarch can be killed by many things which are not even classified as Lord of War (HQ characters / Avatar and Greater Daemons) as well as even Draigo. So we are saying with the new escalation rules; should we just stick Primarchs in as HQ choices for 2000pt games and thereby reclassifying them as HQs?Drake Setahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06997172018989923595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-59948452202585768642013-12-17T17:36:18.177+00:002013-12-17T17:36:18.177+00:00Hey there! Cool name.
Where is this FAQ? I can&#...Hey there! Cool name. <br /><br />Where is this FAQ? I can't find the part you are refering to.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252506564096149264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-38342855494350781382013-12-15T19:27:11.385+00:002013-12-15T19:27:11.385+00:00Excuse me for n00b question, but... Didn't FW ...Excuse me for n00b question, but... Didn't FW HH FAQ already state that yes, xenos players can take LoW from their Apoc lists but should obey the rule of "2000+ pts only and no more than 25% of the whole army cost"?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-64587099374614559462013-12-14T17:17:59.925+00:002013-12-14T17:17:59.925+00:00Why would other LoW need to change? Which ones?Why would other LoW need to change? Which ones?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252506564096149264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-28407944369283992592013-12-14T10:31:21.017+00:002013-12-14T10:31:21.017+00:00Think the Primarch as HQ choice works but then oth...Think the Primarch as HQ choice works but then other LOW would need changing. Think there should be certain limitations on battle types. I think to have some types of LOW as taking up 2 HQ slots then it takes them away where only 1 HQ per 'X' amount of points can be taken. As a novice not sure if this would work but i think it cures the titan vs small army list killersAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17983468013205022281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-17490238199496661952013-12-14T09:13:15.385+00:002013-12-14T09:13:15.385+00:00I agree with having Primarchs as a HQ but only for...I agree with having Primarchs as a HQ but only for 2000+ battles. That would make the battles more even and also would keep to the fluffAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03103068338573929880noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-79534212551533071182013-12-14T08:49:56.455+00:002013-12-14T08:49:56.455+00:00Agreed, primarchs need to be recategorised! Agreed, primarchs need to be recategorised! Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252506564096149264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-85050819823921187782013-12-14T00:24:38.191+00:002013-12-14T00:24:38.191+00:00Primarchs NEED to be HQ, for their points they dea...Primarchs NEED to be HQ, for their points they deal next to know damage and certainly don't warrant a lord of war choice. Having them as an HQ option solves all the problems with them and also allows for fluffy gaming. I also think escalation should be ignored for 30k purposes as the rules without it worked perfectly well ( apart from primarchs not being HQ's!)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13058337581440870179noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-21146174996192871112013-12-13T03:55:17.413+00:002013-12-13T03:55:17.413+00:00I guess the term Lord of war has lost it's &qu...I guess the term Lord of war has lost it's "meaning" I understand that the high point cost is mayb because ur opponent would be feilding a primarch at roughly the same cost. So I agree we should go with HQ and ignore the lord of war title. I do not have the books with me to confirm ATM but sounds good.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15939073995026721386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-1342156964060174562013-12-12T18:17:08.377+00:002013-12-12T18:17:08.377+00:00I know Drake, we don't operate standard lists ...I know Drake, we don't operate standard lists though...that would be unfluffy. Primarchs + LoW in a 2000pt list is very beatable. Primarches are not that tough! Same as any monstrous creature but far more expensive. Making a primarch HQ is the simplest way in my opinion.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252506564096149264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-40191914446971167152013-12-12T17:45:03.156+00:002013-12-12T17:45:03.156+00:00I meant 20 Tactical Marines Derp. And Primarchs as...I meant 20 Tactical Marines Derp. And Primarchs as HQs in 2000 pt lists, but you are still required to take another HQ. Drake Setahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06997172018989923595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-42406179707394749722013-12-12T17:43:22.230+00:002013-12-12T17:43:22.230+00:00Good topic Khall. I agree with most points but wou...Good topic Khall. I agree with most points but would hate to see a Primarch and a Fellblade with 40 Tactical Marines as a standard list. <br /><br />9 Legionaire: Legionaire Sergeant. 150<br />9 Legionaire: Legionaire Sergeant. 150<br /><br />Primarch Horus Lupercal 500<br />Legion Fellblade Super-Heavy Tank: Armoured Ceramite; Space Marine Legion crew (BS4). 565<br /><br />1,365 points<br /><br />That leaves 600pts of throwing around money. Group-wise we could allow Primarchs in a 2000pt list and only allow an Escalation Lord of War when games are 2500pts or more (which could be fielded with a Primarch) otherwise it will get quite tough to fight against, we then set The Lord of War Choice at 2500pts for all Forces?Drake Setahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06997172018989923595noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-83977484102281812432013-12-12T17:39:12.166+00:002013-12-12T17:39:12.166+00:00Great idea. Would love to hear some of their thoug...Great idea. Would love to hear some of their thoughts too so please keep us updated?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09252506564096149264noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6171473526147600929.post-33621029957494243842013-12-12T16:54:52.393+00:002013-12-12T16:54:52.393+00:00I play 30k too and I must say that the thing I tho...I play 30k too and I must say that the thing I though FW should have done from the start. And I felt like that before Escalation because there are already so many cool LoW choices (love my Fellblade) and if I follow the rules (even if Massacre has changed that a bit) I can't field a primarch and my super heavy. I think I should start asking my gaming group about that.Palakirhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17381367707129002008noreply@blogger.com