Word Bearers during the Great Crusade

Hi all

As some of you may know, I am doing a pre heresy Word Bearer army. However, when it has come to trying to find a way to make the army list Forge World have given us fit in the Great Crusade, I have been a bit stuck. A lot of the special rules that the Word Bearer list has which makes them unique, are rules that they would not have had during the Great Crusade. 

So as a result of this I wanted to discuss these rules with you and and hopefully see if you guys could come up with some appropriate alternatives . I'll start off with the generic rules for the Word Bearers which I believe can not be used in the Great Crusade and then move onto some of the character specific rules.

The Diabolist

This is the legions own Consul type who has already become engulfed in the unholy lore of Chaos. With this in mind, I am pretty sure that this guy is a no go for Great Crusade. What I don't know however is if there a different Consul that the Word Bearer should have during the Great Crusade?

Dark Channelling

This is the rule that you can give most Word Bearer squads where you took a d6 to see what upgrade the squad gets. This is because the power of the warp is bound to the individuals armour.

Burning Lore

This is an optional upgrade for some Word Bearer Consul which turns them into a Level 1 Psyker. This is because of warp-tainted incarnations inscribed upon their amour. 

Tainted Weapon

This is an optional upgrade for a Word Bearer with the option to take a power weapon. Even though it does not specifically say what these are, I would say a good guess would be that the weapon it tainted somehow by the warp.

Word Bearer Rite of War

All except one of the effects the Word Bearers get by following the Rite of War are not able to be used in Great Crusade. These include preferred enemy against loyalists, the ability to ally with Daemons and perils of the warp tests taken by the opposing force gain the instant death special rule.

Gal Vorbak Dark Brethren

I'm sure I don't need to mention that there is now way I can use these in Great Crusade.

High Chaplin Erebus

As well as Zealot and Burning Lore, Erebus also has the Marked by Dark Fates and Harbringer of Chaos. The Harbringer of Chaos just allows someone using Erebus the have access to Dark Channelling and may ally with Daemons. But with Marked by Dark Fates this means that where character casualties  and injury between battles is a factor, you may re-roll results for Erebus. To be honest, I have never really done a campaign where this would be applicable so I don't really know how beneficial this could be.

Kor Phaeron.

The only rules that Kor has which I believe can not be used is Burning Lore and Harbringer of Chaos

Lorgar

Lorgar for me is pretty simple. I think all should be ok with using Lorgar during the Great Crusade apart form the upgrade of transfiguring him. 

So as you can see, there is quite a lot of benefits that the Word Bearers have that you can not use if you chose to use them in the Great Crusade, however does taking these away make the Word Bearers at a disadvantage? And if so, what amendments can be made to make them a compatible force? Should we just lower some point values or give them alternative rules? 

Please share your thoughts below on the above questions as I am finding it quite hard to find a viable way to use Word Bearers during the Great Crusade.

Thank you and take care :-)

Word Bearer update

Hi all

I just thought I'd share with you where I currently am at with my Pre-heresy Word Bearers and what my plans are for the next few months. So let's get started.

Lorgar

I have completed the main part of Lorgar. The only bits I still have to do is his base and the diorama stand that he comes with. I know there there people who are not too fond of the bases that come with the Primarchs, but the way I see it why wouldn't you want prober lot the most important model in you army stand out when it's in the display cabinet?  

Erebus and Kor Phaeron

This is the same as Lorgar. I have completed the model but just need to do the base.

I have not made a start with Kor as I am planing on getting some terminators to accompany him into battle. 

Once both of these are complete, I will again complete the diorama base that comes with them. 

Ashen Circle

I have completed my first 5 Ashen Circle and I have had a chance to use then in a battle, and let's just say I am very happy with the way they chipped and sliced their way through some Word Eaters. As a result if this, I am very keep to get at least another 5 of these beautiful models.

Troops

I have completed in total 38 tactical marines, 2 of which are Sergeants. I am currently working though a word bearer shoulder pads for each of these. Which even thought I do really like them, they are becoming a bit if a pain to do so many in one go.

I have recently acquired 20 assault marines for which I have not started yet but I aim to do 2 squads of 10 

Heavy Support

I have 10 Heavy Support marina which will be 2 5 man squads, 1 of which will have lasscannons and the other one with be equipped with missile launcher . All I have managed to complete of these are their body's  and the missile launchers. So I still have quite a way to go with these.

Elites

The only elites I have started is my contempter dreadnought, which u have only started because I for my shoulder pads one day, but I must say, it was a glad to be able to do something different lol. I managed to complete all the interior metal bits.

For those if you who has seen my previous post, I have also complete a 5 man veteran squad. I plan for these to hopefully accompany my warlord where appropriate.

So that's it for all of the stuff I have currently started, however I also have a rapier cannon, fellblade and a storm eagle. These will more then likely be the last models I start for my word bearers, and I am even contemplating holding the fellblade back until I start a certain yellow legion. What do you guys think?

And top of all that, the new dark eldar stuff is very tempting but I will try and get a sizeable force before a re visit them.

So that's it from me. Please comment below on your thoughts on what I have done so far and also what you should think I should tackle next. 

Thank you and take care :-) 

Lorgar is coming. Look busy

"The difference between gods and daemons largely depends upon where one is standing at the time" Lorgar Aurelian.

I am very happy to show you guys/girls my first completed Primarch. Obviously that Primarch is the one and only Lorgar Aurelian. 

This model really was a pleasure to paint and I really enjoyed it. I went for the same scheme as my other word bearers with most of the details in a washed gold, to try and have almost a very light brown tint to it. 

The piece I spent the most time on is his mace. I tried to make it look like a cracked black rock with larva in the cracks. This is properly what I am most proud of as it has come out exactly how I have pictured it.

Here is a couple of picture with Erebus and my Veteran squad. This is how I am thinking of fielding Lorgar in future battles. Should be a pretty effective unit. But I guess time will tell. 

So let me know what you guys think below in the comments :-) 

Finally!!! Where have you guys been??!?

Hi all

The time has finally come for me to show you guys my latest completed squad. What I have here is a 5 man veteran squad that I hope to filed with Erebus. 

I have really enjoyed painting these models. Firstly because of the variety within the squad, and secondly because it's the first time I have painted the legion upgrade items. 

I would like to apologise for the poor quality photos. I do promise to post up some betters ones as soon as i am able. 

I hope you enjoy :-) 

Please leave your thoughts and comments below   

Word Bearer Characters

Hi all

With the coming campaign just round the corner, I would like to share with you guys what characters I am planing on doing for my word bearers, and maybe get a little advise.

Now I would be stupid not to use the characters that forge world have been nice enough to do for me, so Erebus and Kor Phaeron will be making appearances. So that just leaves two more to do.

Since I am not very good or a fan of just making new people up, I done some research to try and fine some reasonably unknown characters that would have played a big part in the pre heresy word bearers. I came across some 2 people that I found quite intriguing. Halik-gar and Maedro Vessar. Both of these are mentioned in the forge world Horus Heresy books. 

Halik-gar 

It states that Halik-gar was the High Herald of the legion and the commander before they were reunited with Lorgar. So straight away I was interested. It also states that a Herald was clad in black armour, his face hidden by a skull helm and bearing the eagle-winged mace. Now remember earlier when I said that I was looking for a little advise? The reason for this is because I am very inexperienced with playing Space Marines, so I was  looking for advise in what kind of HQ this guy should be and what should I equip him with, are there any eagle-winged maces you know off?

Maedro Vessar

For this guy, it just states that he is an iconoclast. Now I'm not sure if this just refers to the fact he is a word bearer as the legions informal name is the Iconoclast, or whether it is referring to the commander or an Ashen Circle squad, also know as an Iconoclast. Which that in mind I though it would be a good idea to have a HQ who could be a leader of the Ashen Circle. So this guy would need to have a jump pack, but the rest could really be anything. So again, what kind of HQ do you think this guy should be and which what equipment? 

Please comment below as I would much appreciate to know what you guys think. 

Thank you and take care :-) 

Targel Vypus

Work in progress Word Bearers

Hi all

I thought I would share a picture of what I am working on as it write this.

What you see here is a 20 man tactical squad, 2 x 5 man heavy support squads, 5 man veteran squad, Erebus and lastly but far from least, Lorgar. This is going to be a good night :-)

Take care

The Ashen Circle will make the galaxy burn!!!!

Hi all

I have finally finished my 5 man Ashen Circle squad. Overall I am really happy with how they have turned out, and I believe that they are a good stepping stone to move onto tackling Erebus and Lorgar. I have followed the same paint scheme as my previous grey Word bearers so refer to that post for full details.

Here are some pics of them on a battlefield. Now I just can not wait to see how they would do in a battle.

Let me know what you think in the comments below and also if you have any questions

Tune in tomorrow for our Death Guard vs Emperor's Children Legion Battle report. 

Take care :-)